Until we actually leave the EU citizens of the EU are free to come to the UK and stay. They can live and work without restriction under the rules of free movement.
However when we leave the EU - free movement will end and thereafter EU citizens wanting to come to the UK to live and work will be subject to new rules.
Therefore there has to be a cut off point to differentiate between those that have come here under free movement rules and those that want to come subsequently.
Currently there is no registration system for EU citizens already here. As they will continue to have full rights to remain in the UK under the same conditions they presently enjoy even after we leave - it is now obviously important to know who they are.
It is clear and obvious the UK needs to establish a list so people can be differentiated from those who come after the UK has left the EU (as they will not automatically share the same benefits).
The formation of this list (of those entitled to "settled status") is set out under The EU Settlement Scheme. It will be fully open from 30th March 2019. EU citizens currently living here will be required to register their right to be here by completing a simple registration process. Their deadline to do so is by the 30th June 2021 (or 31st December 2020 if the UK leaves the EU without a deal.)
So far you would say - perfectly reasonable and understandable - in everyone's interest to form the register.
But no - the fuss it has caused!
Why?
Well - because some of our "liberal" minded lobby feel it is offensive to EU citizens to be required to register.
The narrative goes EU migrants are vital to us, they do so much good, they enhance our society - how dare we make them feel their right to be here is in question.
Examples :-
We condemn the Settled Status scheme for non-UK EU citizens as discriminatory and unnecessary; believes that people who have chosen to make their lives here under the auspices of the EU’s Freedom of Movement should be welcome to stay without any documentation or payment of a fee and should be entitled to retain the rights they currently have after the UK leaves the EU; and calls on the Government to amend the scheme accordingly without delay.
However when we leave the EU - free movement will end and thereafter EU citizens wanting to come to the UK to live and work will be subject to new rules.
Therefore there has to be a cut off point to differentiate between those that have come here under free movement rules and those that want to come subsequently.
Currently there is no registration system for EU citizens already here. As they will continue to have full rights to remain in the UK under the same conditions they presently enjoy even after we leave - it is now obviously important to know who they are.
It is clear and obvious the UK needs to establish a list so people can be differentiated from those who come after the UK has left the EU (as they will not automatically share the same benefits).
The formation of this list (of those entitled to "settled status") is set out under The EU Settlement Scheme. It will be fully open from 30th March 2019. EU citizens currently living here will be required to register their right to be here by completing a simple registration process. Their deadline to do so is by the 30th June 2021 (or 31st December 2020 if the UK leaves the EU without a deal.)
So far you would say - perfectly reasonable and understandable - in everyone's interest to form the register.
But no - the fuss it has caused!
Why?
Well - because some of our "liberal" minded lobby feel it is offensive to EU citizens to be required to register.
The narrative goes EU migrants are vital to us, they do so much good, they enhance our society - how dare we make them feel their right to be here is in question.
Examples :-
We condemn the Settled Status scheme for non-UK EU citizens as discriminatory and unnecessary; believes that people who have chosen to make their lives here under the auspices of the EU’s Freedom of Movement should be welcome to stay without any documentation or payment of a fee and should be entitled to retain the rights they currently have after the UK leaves the EU; and calls on the Government to amend the scheme accordingly without delay.
We have a Tory government that takes any opportunity to make racist policies.
We saw it in the Windrush scandal, and we’re getting it again with their disgusting treatment of European Union (EU) nationals living in Britain.
EU nationals who want to stay in their homes, jobs, communities and with their families are now going to have to register with the state.
The registration will act as a test —based on proof of identity, length of stay and criminal record.
It is crucial that we expose and fight against this anti-migrant policy, and that we support those EU nationals that are feeling scared, angry and confused. Life under austerity is hard enough—being placed on a register is both humiliating and alarming.
Our unions, the Labour Party and all anti-racist campaigners need to take this issue seriously and work together to stop this racist policy.
Tash
Sheffield
The British government has given assurances to EU citizens living in Britain that our rights will be guaranteed after Brexit.
There is one catch—we need to apply for “settled status” and receive a kind of ID document which British citizens don’t need. If we receive the document, we will be deported to our countries of origin after the two-year Brexit transition period
Before that, those without settled status would experience the full force of the Tories’ “hostile environment”. Among other things, we would be denied health care and the right to rent property.
The British government is behaving like a thug. We have to stop that anti-migrant drive in its tracks.
We should fight together against the settled status scheme.
Jacek Szymanski
Yesterday I watched our Home Secretary Sajid Javid being questioned by members of the House of Lords EU Justice Sub-Committee on the matter of the rights of EU citizens post Brexit. It would be hard to find a better example of nauseating virtue signaling by the great and the good - of which Baroness Shackleton's was the most exaggerated.
Basically they gave Mr Javid a hard time - mainly about the "tone" of adverts commissioned by the government to publicise the registration need and process. Baroness Shackleton referred to ads as hostile and pressed the Home Secretary to concede they give an adverse and negative impression to EU migrants here of their value to us. Basically Baroness Shackleton like so many "liberals" insist migrants are here for our benefit and we should be eternally grateful to them for coming here. I think if she could have her way we would pay them for going through the simple process of registering - because they are being inconvenienced for our benefit - not theirs!
Home Secretary Javid rejected the criticism and dismissed claims that the tone of the message was hostile in any way.
He stated the Home Office and UK Government must not repeat the "Windrush generation" mistakes. Windrush was caused by successive governments not documenting arrivals from the Caribbean in the 1950's and 1960's and this led to migrant removals many years later - in error.
Javid said :-
"Whether we like it or not, when we leave the EU, whether with a deal or no deal, at some point they would have to have proper status, so that they have no problems in the future to live, work and continue their lives here. We cannot have a situation in the future, where we aren't able to identify the cohort of 3 million plus that were here before the exit from the EU or at the end of the implementation period — if we have a deal — and new EU citizens that continue to arrive after that," Javid told the committee." He added "that if the Home Office message to EU nationals is not clear, the government runs the risk of people feel like there is not much pressure on them and they don't have to do this. To those who criticize the advertising I say the ads contained the correct and factual message and he won't allow the scheme to fail under his watch."
I was metaphorically furious watching this playout in Parliament. I feel frustrated at the perverse criticism of the Home Secretary from the "liberals" (that pervade our society) and am equally cross with the EU migrants who are kicking up such a fuss over the need to register under the scheme.
Here are some home truths about economic migrants from the EU.
Yesterday I watched our Home Secretary Sajid Javid being questioned by members of the House of Lords EU Justice Sub-Committee on the matter of the rights of EU citizens post Brexit. It would be hard to find a better example of nauseating virtue signaling by the great and the good - of which Baroness Shackleton's was the most exaggerated.
Basically they gave Mr Javid a hard time - mainly about the "tone" of adverts commissioned by the government to publicise the registration need and process. Baroness Shackleton referred to ads as hostile and pressed the Home Secretary to concede they give an adverse and negative impression to EU migrants here of their value to us. Basically Baroness Shackleton like so many "liberals" insist migrants are here for our benefit and we should be eternally grateful to them for coming here. I think if she could have her way we would pay them for going through the simple process of registering - because they are being inconvenienced for our benefit - not theirs!
Home Secretary Javid rejected the criticism and dismissed claims that the tone of the message was hostile in any way.
He stated the Home Office and UK Government must not repeat the "Windrush generation" mistakes. Windrush was caused by successive governments not documenting arrivals from the Caribbean in the 1950's and 1960's and this led to migrant removals many years later - in error.
Javid said :-
"Whether we like it or not, when we leave the EU, whether with a deal or no deal, at some point they would have to have proper status, so that they have no problems in the future to live, work and continue their lives here. We cannot have a situation in the future, where we aren't able to identify the cohort of 3 million plus that were here before the exit from the EU or at the end of the implementation period — if we have a deal — and new EU citizens that continue to arrive after that," Javid told the committee." He added "that if the Home Office message to EU nationals is not clear, the government runs the risk of people feel like there is not much pressure on them and they don't have to do this. To those who criticize the advertising I say the ads contained the correct and factual message and he won't allow the scheme to fail under his watch."
I was metaphorically furious watching this playout in Parliament. I feel frustrated at the perverse criticism of the Home Secretary from the "liberals" (that pervade our society) and am equally cross with the EU migrants who are kicking up such a fuss over the need to register under the scheme.
Here are some home truths about economic migrants from the EU.
- There is not a single EU migrant in the UK who is not here primarily for his or her own benefit.
- Many EU migrants do good work - they contribute but that is not their primary motive for wanting to be here. Their primary motive is their needs - not the UK's.
- The argument goes migrants create more wealth for the UK than they consume. The average UK citizen rejects that.The average citizen understands the average migrant takes out more from the system in terms of welfare benefits, school places, medical treatment etc than they could possibly pay for by the amount of taxes they pay. We also acknowledge while mass inward migration pushes up our total GDP there are more mouths to feed (to coin a phrase). Consequently our citizens are not actually better off - our per capita GDP is poor. It is also a characteristic of many eastern Europeans (particularly) to send their earnings back to their country of origin - so the UK does not benefit from their spending at all.
- The average UK citizen also understands uncontrolled EU migration has had a negative impact on our national infrastructure - housing provision, school places, social services etc etc. In some areas the influx of migrants have upset the balance of communities and far from being enriching is seen as damaging our culture. The UK is overcrowded - particularly the SE. It is affecting our ability to function which is one of the reasons our per capita GDP is so relatively poor.Those liberals that deny all of this do so in the face of commonsense and the real life experience of UK citizens.
UK citizens in the main are sick and tired of economic migrants being put on a pedestal by the liberal elites. I repeat - migrants are primarily here for their benefit not ours. For everyone that leaves there are thousands across the world that would give their right arm to get to the UK for all the benefits that accrue from living here.
The majority of UK citizens believe the experiment of free movement of people has been a massive negative for the UK overall and have voted to stop it. While many would like the majority of EU migrants to return to their country of origin (mainly because they feel our country is creaking under weight of numbers - and cannot cope and because many do not have the skills we actually need) they also have a sense of fair play and respect of the law. EU migrants already here are welcome to stay as long as they abide by the law. It is therefore not unreasonable for EU citizens living here and who wish to remain to be required to register. If it is too much trouble to meet the UK government half way it is hard not to feel they are welcome to go home or be removed - it should be as simple and as clear as that. It will be mainly their loss not ours. The UK will be far better off when we have a managed inward migration system - so we can determine who we need here and not the other way around - as it has been to date, to the nations detriment.
The majority of UK citizens believe the experiment of free movement of people has been a massive negative for the UK overall and have voted to stop it. While many would like the majority of EU migrants to return to their country of origin (mainly because they feel our country is creaking under weight of numbers - and cannot cope and because many do not have the skills we actually need) they also have a sense of fair play and respect of the law. EU migrants already here are welcome to stay as long as they abide by the law. It is therefore not unreasonable for EU citizens living here and who wish to remain to be required to register. If it is too much trouble to meet the UK government half way it is hard not to feel they are welcome to go home or be removed - it should be as simple and as clear as that. It will be mainly their loss not ours. The UK will be far better off when we have a managed inward migration system - so we can determine who we need here and not the other way around - as it has been to date, to the nations detriment.
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